Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/26/1999 03:10 PM Senate RES

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              SB 133-REGULATORY COMMISSION OF ALASKA                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIRMAN HALFORD  announced SB 133  to be up for consideration.   He                                                            
said since  the merger of  BP and ARCO, the  AOGCC would have  to be                                                            
better  staffed  and  stronger  and  be much  more  willing  to  get                                                            
involved to protect the  state's interest.  He explained that the CS                                                            
primarily "beefs  up" the AOGCC and  makes significant improvements                                                             
to the APUC.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PEARCE  said she appreciated Senator Halford's  concerns and                                                            
also wanted  to strengthen the AOGCC,  which CSSB 133 does.   SB 134                                                            
gives it the financial backing that it needs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PEARCE explained  that SB 133 makes basic structural changes                                                            
to the APUC and asks LB&A  to work with the two Commissions to bring                                                            
back  recommendations  as  to  the best  structure  for  a  combined                                                            
regulatory  entity.  Many  other oil and  gas producing states  have                                                            
done this and  it worked well.  In  the meantime, we would  continue                                                            
to make the  changes they were making  to the APUC.  The  name would                                                            
be changed  to the Alaska Energy Conservation  Commission  (AECC) on                                                            
July 1, 1999  with the expectation  that AOGCC would become  part of                                                            
the entity  at year end 2000.  The  Administration would  look for a                                                            
place to house  the AOGCC and APUC  together so they could  begin to                                                            
benefit  from  the  efficiencies  of  combined  record  keeping  and                                                            
staffing.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The pay  range  of the AECC  chairperson  would be  higher than  the                                                            
other commissioners.  Everyone else was left at the same rate.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR PEARCE  said staff for pipeline  regulation and all  pending                                                            
pipeline  matters, along with  two tariff staff,  would move  to the                                                            
AOGCC on the effective  date of July 1, 1999. Space  is available in                                                            
the building  in Muldoon,  even though the  building is inadequate.                                                             
Since the  AOGCC would be  taking on the  pipeline regulation,  they                                                            
would have access  to the hearing officer being added  to the larger                                                            
group  during  the  transition  period.   She  thought  the  hearing                                                            
officer, the additional  tariff staff, and the three technical staff                                                            
(in SB 134)  would give them the staffing  backup they need  to take                                                            
on the new regulatory pipeline regulation function.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 560                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PARNELL noted  that the  petroleum engineer  and  geologist                                                            
were getting paid more.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PEARCE responded  that is  their present  level and,  under                                                            
this bill, the pay remains exactly as it is today.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PARNELL  suggested that a  year later they should  all be at                                                            
the same level.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PEARCE said she  agrees and that she would recommend finding                                                            
the correct level of pay  for the commissioners.  She understood the                                                            
reason  AOGCC personnel  are paid more  is because  in the past  pay                                                            
levels  have caused  problems  when  trying to  find professionally                                                             
qualified personnel  for the AOGCC  positions.  The chairman  of the                                                            
AECC is being  given more responsibility and more  power than in the                                                            
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD said there  was still the question of regulation of                                                            
refuse and questions regarding  the APUC and the new commission but,                                                            
as  chairman  of  the  Resources  Committee,   he  was  focusing  on                                                            
resources issues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PARNELL moved  to adopt the  CS to SB 133.   There  were no                                                            
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. JUDY BRADY, Executive  Director, Alaska Oil and Gas Association,                                                            
said they would  comment after seeing the changes  being proposed in                                                            
this bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARY HUGHES, Attorney,  Municipality of Anchorage, said they own                                                            
four  utilities:  telephone, water  and  waste water,  electric  and                                                            
refuse.  They  have approximately $1.5 billion of  taxpayer money in                                                            
those  utilities which  provide the  municipality  with much  fiscal                                                            
stability.   The APUC  has been  a very good  organization in  their                                                            
opinion and they  feel it would be appropriate to  have it remain as                                                            
it is.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
One of  the resources  of the  Municipality of  Anchorage is  refuse                                                            
collections services and,  in the past, small refuse providers spent                                                            
a lot  of money on  economic regulation.   From  that standpoint  it                                                            
would seem  appropriate to  deregulate.   She understands that  this                                                            
bill  deregulates,   but  doesn't  do  anything  for   planning  for                                                            
management and  regulation of the refuse collection  services.  Now,                                                            
approximately  95 percent  of Alaska's refuse  collection is  in the                                                            
hands of  one carrier, Waste  Management.   It is their belief  that                                                            
when services  of 95% of Alaskans  are with one carrier,  there must                                                            
be some type of regulation of that carrier.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
They propose  the particular provisions,  Sections 2, 3,  9, 16, and                                                            
27 be deleted  with the idea that  participants within the  industry                                                            
could  work with  legislators  to come  up with  some  way in  which                                                            
deregulation  is  a thoughtful  process,  so  that  in the  end  the                                                            
consumer and the owners of the utility are well served.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 453                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SHARON  DANIEL, Copper Basin Sanitation,  said they provide  the                                                            
refuse collection  in the  unorganized borough  in the Copper  River                                                            
basin.   Garbage  collection is  a matter  of public  health if  not                                                            
properly  disposed  of.   Deregulation  of garbage  collection  will                                                            
result in areas of the state no longer getting garbage service.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HALFORD thanked everyone for their testimony.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  moved to  pass  CSSB 133(RES)  from  committee  with                                                            
individual recommendations.   There were no objections and it was so                                                            
ordered.                                                                                                                        

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